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Ye are gods

Category: Discover Yourself 17 Comments February 11, 2009

Hot seat!

In the course of delivering a sermon recently in the church that I pastor, I made the statement, ‘ye are gods.’ When we came back that afternoon after the service, my 8yr old daughter asked me, “Daddy, we are human beings, not gods! How can you say that we are gods? What do you mean?”

I was delighted to know that my sweet 8yr old was listening to my sermons! I was also proud of her for having the intelligence and courage to confront me over an issue I raised during a sermon. But I was momentarily at a loss on how to explain such a profound idea to her. How do I explain to an 8yr old that human beings are gods? Whatever explanations I give must be both credible and simple.

Fortunately, the right thought hit my mind at that very moment – a fundamental concept that even she unquestioningly accepts. That concept is the fact that we are the children of God.

So I asked her, “Do you believe that we are children of God?”
“Yes,” she replied.”
“Good!” I said, “now let me ask you some questions.”
With that I proceeded to ask her several questions to which she gave the right answers.
“When a rabbit gives birth, what’s it that it gives birth to?” I asked, “a rabbit,” she answered.
“When a monkey gives birth, what’s that that is born?” I asked again, and again she replied, “a monkey.”
I asked the same question about a goat and a human being and she replied accurately.
“Well, my daughter,” I continued, hoping that the final question will do the job, “when a God gives birth, what’s supposed to be born?” To my relief, she answered, “a god.”
Like someone who had just won a jackpot, I proceeded to make my point to my girl, “If we are the children of God, then we have the nature of God, and that means that we are gods. Do you understand?”
“Yes daddy,” she smiled and ran off!

Ye are gods

Now, come to think of it, I didn’t really manufacture the concept of humans being gods; its a biblical and godly concept.

“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said ye are gods’?…” ~ Jesus Christ, John 10:35

According to the bible, human beings are created in the image of God. This is something lots of people know but never actually get to ponder over.

If mankind is created in the image of God, then you and I are partakers of the divine nature. That means that we have the potential and capacity to manifest the attributes and powers of God as daily realities in time and space. I know this idea might be too much for some folks to take in to their minds, particularly when you’ve been programmed to look down on yourself, to think of yourself as worthless, and to think of yourself as fortunate enough to merely exist and so just manage to get by.
Nevertheless, it is still true that ‘ye are gods.’

Discover yourself

The purpose of this blog is to inspire you to discover yourself, and one of the most basic elements of your identity is your divinity!
Ye are gods!
Discover yourself!
Be inspired!

Discover yourself and have the courage to embrace all of the potentials and possibilities of your being.
Ye are gods!

Creativity

The most basic attribute of a god is creativity – the capacity to manifest reality out of apparent nothingness. I came to this conclusion after a careful analysis of the timeline of God’s revelation about himself in the Holy Scriptures. The first attribute of God revealed in the Holy Scriptures is that of a Creator.

I find it particularly interesting that before ever God revealed Himself as a Father, Judge, or anything else, He first of all manifested as a Creator.

This is quite significant because it embodies the fact that fundamental to God is the attribute of Creativity.
Creativity – the capacity to manifest reality out of apparent nothingness – is the basic attribute of the divine nature.

Since we are the offsprings of God, and according to Jesus Christ, ‘ye are gods,’ basic to our nature is the capacity to manifest reality out of apparent nothingness! It’s within your divine nature and powers to do this.

In the next parts of this series, I’ll continue to reveal how we can translate this potential into reality in our daily experiences.

17 Responses to Ye are gods

  1. Robin Easton

    February 11, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    My dear friend, I believe this completely. I always have. I think I got it from my father. Regardless, you have expressed this beautifully. And I agree that humans have tended to shy away from such a concept and even go so far as to put themselves down. BUT I believe that when we do that, we put God down, we put down and even desecrate the gifts we are given. We honor our God when we see ourselves as Gods. Thank you for speaking this out so clearly. I loved the analogy you gave your little girl. You won’t forget that. Magical and simple, right to point and heart of it. :)

  2. jeweledrabbit

    February 12, 2009 at 4:47 am

    What a perfect answer you gave to your daugher. :o )

    I believe we’re meant to be co-creators with Source, hence why It made us in Its image. Creativity is the inherent nature of both God and humankind we’re all continually creating something. In the case of human beings that something can be for better or worse.

  3. WD

    February 12, 2009 at 7:00 am

    Our lives and very being springs from God…the moment humans understand this, our value and appreciation of the worth of other people will rise tremendously. The awareness of our participation in the divine nature will enable and allow us to create, it will also empower us to positively impact the lives of our fellow humans.
    Thanks for your comments.

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  6. Bruce Macomber

    March 14, 2009 at 10:07 am

    Please note that Christ was making reference to Psalm 82:6 which must be taken in that context. The ‘gods’ were magistrates and vs.7 maintains that they ‘shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes’
    The Psalmist is pointing to Christ, who shall ’8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.’

    Hence, Christ, in John 10:35, is not validating the notion that men are or can be gods, but, rather affirming that He is God.

    The only perfection that we can claim is by and through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

    Remember, it was the serpent hissing in Genesis 3:5 “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods” that led down the wrong road, necessitating the atoning sacrifice of the only human ever to rightfully claim the title of God.

    Blessings,

    Bruce Macomber

  7. Pastor WD Favour

    March 14, 2009 at 10:24 am

    Welcome Bruce to ‘Discover Yourself!’
    If you study your bible well, you will discover that We are Co-heirs with Christ.
    We are participants in the divine nature.
    He is the first born among many brethren.
    We can’t have the firstborn having one nature and the rest having another!
    It’s simple sense.
    ‘ye are gods!’

  8. Bruce Macomber

    March 14, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Thanks for the welcome, Pastor.

    I hope I do not wear it out!

    I do study my Bible well, my brother and I will leave you to ponder Job 41 and 42 and see how we gods measure up.
    :-)

    IHS,

    Bruce Macomber

  9. Bruce Macomber

    March 14, 2009 at 10:41 am

    oops…40 and 41

    • Pastor WD Favour

      March 14, 2009 at 11:33 am

      lol… You are welcome to this blog.
      No one who’s willing to say their minds and share their perspectives will ever wear out their welcome to this blog.
      Thanks for the scriptures…I’ll look them up and see what I’ll learn there.
      God bless you and keep visiting… :)
      Keep commenting too.

  10. Javier

    March 14, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Hi Pastor.
    So if we become or are gods, can we/you/I die and atone for others sin? If we created in the image of GOD then this should be possible no?

  11. Pastor WD Favour

    March 14, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    First of all, Javier, I do not think that the primary duty of gods is to atone for others sins… :)
    It’s important to follow the logic of the post. If you are a child of someone, it’s simple logic that you share in the nature of that person. We are children of God…
    Secondly, if you have an elder brother, it’s simple logic that both of you have the same nature…Jesus is the firstborn among many brethren, we are His brothers…so?
    It’s all about an open mind versus dogmatism..the very thing Jesus had to contend with while He was here. :)

  12. Bruce Macomber

    March 15, 2009 at 6:46 am

    Brother, I must reach out to you in truth and love and point out your error. I know we’re on your turf, but it must be said.

    To try and use ‘simple logic’ to fathom God and His Word is like hunting Elephants with a pea shooter.

    Isaiah 55:

    8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

    9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

    There is no simple correlation between God -> Son (Jesus) -> Brother (Believers) for Jesus and the Father (and the Holy Spirit) are GOD.

    There is one God. Not gods. That was the fatal lie straight from Satan and it is being repeated still – either deliberately or erroneously.

    Certainly, if we were created literally in the image of God, with all of His attributes, we would be created perfect and would have no need of salvation, would we?

    Did Christ die in vain?

    I submit to you that an image is a reflection of a greater Reality, not the reality itself. The created cannot equal the Creator.

    There are many teachings going around, brother, and many have gained popularity.

    LDS doctrine, for example, teaches that God was a flesh and blood man and achieved Godhood. They also teach that Jesus and Lucifer are Spirit brothers, both creations themselves. I think we would agree that is not sound doctrine, would we not?

    And yet, they maintain that men will attain a level or various levels of godhood, based upon their works.

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding your article and you are not saying that we are equal to God?

    I wish you well and don’t intend to offend, but to edify, perhaps clumsily, but with love and concern for the Truth.

    IHS,

    Bruce

    • Pastor WD Favour

      March 15, 2009 at 8:11 am

      First of all, you must understand that you are free to say what you think and what you believe here. I believe that an open mind on all subjects is a great asset and one of the great riches of life. I also appreciate your concern for the truth and your efforts to protect and defend it.


      Yet, it’s important for us to understand the new realities that came into existence when Jesus died and resurrected. A new Creation was born. (So Jesus didn’t die in vain. :) By His death and resurrection, He has bought in a new creation, new realities, and has brought many sons into glory.)


      This is not about being equal with God, because there can only be one God – the Father of all. It’s rather about ‘participation’ or ‘sharing’ in the divine nature.


      For instance, there is only one father in a house hold, yet it’s a household of ‘humans.’ It’s a matter of nature. The father is human, the mother is human, the children are human. They share in the same nature. The children submit to the authority and leadership of the parents, yet all of them have the human nature. The children are not equal with their father, yet they share in the same nature – the human nature.


      In the same way, we have only one Father – the Almighty God. Yet because we are His children, we are partakers of His nature. We are not equal with Him, but we share in His nature – His god nature.


      “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” 2 Peter 1:4


      “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:” John 1:12


      The Father Himself has provided this right for us and now, through faith in Jesus Christ, we are His sons…not His mates, or equals :) but His sons – partakers of His divine nature (the god nature)


      I love your quote from Isaiah.
      Yet, that does not apply to those who have ‘the mind of Christ’.
      When we walk in the spirit, we have redeemed minds. For instance, “Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.” Hebrews 11:18


      Jesus applied divine reasoning (the simple logic of a renewed mind) when He said, “Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?” Matthew 7:9-11.


      When we receive Jesus Christ and become filled with the Holy Spirit, and as we continue to renew our minds through God’s word, we come into agreement with the Father’s ways… The Isaiah quote applies to people whose minds have not yet come under the redemptive and regenerative power of the Holy Spirit.


      Once again, Bruce, I welcome further thoughts from you on this matter. This is a discussion I’m very pleased to engage in… God bless you.

  13. Bruce Macomber

    March 15, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Well, I don’t want to get too carried away trying to straighten you out – :) – if we share the same essential doctrinal beliefs.

    The thing is, I haven’t found yours stated on your site. Can you point me to them?

    Mine are front and center at http://christiansoldiersonline.org

    The articles I have taken a look at here seem seem reflective of WoF and elements of ‘the Secret’

    IHS,

    Bruce

  14. javier

    March 16, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Hi Pastor, Before we go any further I would like to ask u a question. Do you believe Jesus is God himself. Not a manifestation or the son of God, but God himself.
    Thanks and i WILL look for your answer.
    javier

  15. Pastor WD Favour

    March 16, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    @Bruce…I notice you like job :) Here’s one of my favorite scriptures from Job…”Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me if you understand.” ~ Job 38:4
    Jesus posed a similar challenge: “Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life? Since you cannot do this very little thing, why do you worry about the rest?” Luke 12: 25, 26

    What’s my point? Religion is the pathetic efforts of frail humans to project their fears and insecurities on an Almighty God. If God can’t take care of His world, then none of us can. I don’t think He’s out of control yet as some folks seem to imply…

    It never occured to me that you were trying to straighten me out…well, I find it amusing when finite minds undertake to define an infinite God in absolute terms and concepts.

    It’s arrogance to equate your personal understanding of Scripture with God’s absolute meaning. We know in part… :) I’m always the first to admit that. Yet, it’s obvious that the inability to appreciate multiple perspectives of spiritual realities is extolled in religion as a virtue…’defending the truth.” lol…

    BTW: I don’t HAVE to state my ‘essential doctrinal beliefs’ on my site…though they are clearly stated here for those who have the eyes to see them. I also don’t HAVE the need to put them ‘front and center…’

    It’s a mark of low spiritual awareness to try to classify people in terms of pentecostals, evangelicals, orthodox, wof, secret…seems like tribalism to me…the human spirit transcends such dim awareness definitions.

    I noticed that you don’t quite believe that People who are in Jesus Christ share His nature and that of the Father. I thought you’d have stayed with the issue.

    @Javier… Maybe, you should stay on the subject of this post…”Ye are gods…”, that is, if you have the necessary awareness to fathom the essence of the message… and leave old, worn out, and unnecessary religious bickering…